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Post by puppy on Oct 20, 2003 2:08:56 GMT -5
bubbles > not trying to discourage u but since dr ling say the worst (put to sleep), i think it's better that u be mentally prepared. maybe u want to read up overseas websites. see if there are any med u havent try. then print out ask dr ling if she can get for u. from what i know, she'll definitely try ways and means to find cures. but do know that bunnies are very strong willed. give her lots of TLC... me will read up more, see whether can find anything or not.
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Post by bunnylover on Oct 20, 2003 2:10:45 GMT -5
I have double checked with Animal Recovery Centre Dr robin au, he told me is not sore hock. We found few mites on her fur. Putting some medicine called "Revolution" on her skin near the neck, he said will spread into whole skin after 2, 3 days and killed the mites. Will rush to petshop to get some kinda spray for whole house. BTW, I never put them in cage, they are running freely on the floor. I have isolated her from others, especially her 5 weeks babies........ Really in a loss, can someone help me !!
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Post by puppy on Oct 20, 2003 3:49:19 GMT -5
bubbles > charmie mention in HRSS that dusty was given a milky white liquid already in syringes called panquer 6. is it the same as the one u mention -> penacur? they talk about flicking eyes in hrss ( www.hrss.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=820 )... pearl did that too? they were talking about how to check for flicking eyes. did dr ling / dr chan check that on pearl? in islandgems.net/wryneck.html , it says that a new drug called SMZ, Sulfatrim Pediatric Suspension (Sulfamethoxazole Trimethoprim) has has shown some good results. have u thought of asking dr ling / dr chan about that? they also mentioned " Also mentioned that "Medications of choice for wry neck treatment include antibiotics and/or steroid medications, Baytril, and Prednisone Tylan 50 (tylosin)" and "Many breeders have reported varying success with a wide variety of treatments, including cough medicines, VetRX, Coccidiosis treatments, Terramycin, etc., etc., and some even claiming the condition corrected itself without treatment." did dr ling do a radiograph on pearl's head? it's mentioned in www.rabbit.org/journal/3-8/head-tilt.html it also mentioned that enrofloxacin, chloramphenicol or penicillin G procaine with benzathaine can be given. did dr ling give u any of that? also about ear surgery to remove the pus. they also mentioned accupuncture leh... according to www.rabbit.org/journal/3-8/head-tilt.html , can give alfalfa hay, a variety of fresh green veggies, carrots and fruits and pellets mixed with 2 parts water, mixed garden baby food, some banana, some powdered acidophilus, some apple sauce (some of whatever he usually likes that has a strong taste). it can happen to large breeds too. fig.cox.miami.edu/Faculty/Dana/tilt.html -> culture and sensitivity testing. dunno if dr ling / dr chan can do this to check. seems like this is an impt test to do for bunnies with head tilt. it also says that "A relatively recently "rediscovered" therapy that has proven highly effective in cases of head tilt, jaw abscesses and other infections of the head is treatment with bicillin, a rabbit-safe combination of injectible Penicillin-G Procaine and Benzathine." i think maybe u want to try PEN-G jabs. puppy had that everytime his abscess came back. and it always work. but must jab for at least a month. " Meclizine (commercially known as Anti-Vert) is excellent for controlling dizziness, though it will not work for every rabbit. If meclizine does not control the nystagmus, your vet might prescribe a course of short-acting corticosteroids to reduce the inflammation interfering with the vestibular apparatus." " Meclizine and corticosteroids helped with the immediate symptoms, but it took eight months on antibiotics to completely clear her ears of the Pseudomonas aeruginosa (which happened to be resistant to all the antibiotics tested except ciprofloxacin and colymicin) that was causing the problem." me will continue to read after my school tonight.
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Post by puppy on Oct 20, 2003 4:03:26 GMT -5
bubbles > i dunno how serious is pearl's condition... but www.bio.miami.edu/hare/tilt_therapy.html mention that "I decided to try this balance therapy on our bunny. After buying a large clothes basket and a suitable carpet or rug (purchase one that your bunny can use for the most traction) for the bottom of the basket, place your bunny inside the basket and let him get comfortable with his new surroundings. After this, gently pick up the clothes basket and rotate the entire basket away from the bunny's affected side and then to the bunny's affected side. This sends signals to your bunny's brain that will make him attempt to "right" his balance."
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Post by \(o^\) pipi (/o^)/ on Oct 20, 2003 4:22:05 GMT -5
hey bubbles >> i was ald slpg wen u told mi shirl cant gif u a lift liaoz den i was stil slpg wen u told mi abt pearl so sorry to hear tt..but dun worry k since u sae she has been moving abt now n oso eatg n drinkg..btw did u tell dr ling (or whoever) tt pearl is like moving abt more now??n oso eatg n drink more compared to e last few daes? im not too sure abt all tiz but it seems to mi tt pearl is startg to haf confidence n faith since shez startg to move abt more n eatg hope 2 hear more updates abt pearl i will oso pray for miracle to happen..will oso get my pipi..scoffy..toffy..notty n dusty to pray as well..u noe pipi has tiz GREAT prayg skills!! every time b4 my exams he will "ormitorfor ormitorfor ormitorfor" for mi den i will pass de puppy >> aiyo~ i read til ;D cuz i dun haf any bunnies ma so alot of tings v foreign to mi ..well hope u find find alternatives to mk pearl feel beta
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Post by bubblesbiscuit on Oct 20, 2003 7:36:44 GMT -5
Thanks Puppy, I have read all the references n Dr ling has a copy of the article in fig.cox.miami.edu/Faculty/Dana/tilt.html... unfortunately,in Singapore,many of these drugs are not available n even equipment for testing of culture and doing radiograph etc is not readily available.the balance therapy thing i also read.....i dun know if this is the right time to do it yet cos dun know if she has been cured of the condition yet that had caused the head tilt. Physical therapy should only b done on bunnies are are cured of whatever causes the tilt(mites or what) to correct the ange of the head n the balance.....right now dun wanna stress her out first. Yes,Pearl was given the milky white liquid..its a wormer. she was also given Revolution which helps to kill all the mites present. she was given baytril as well(the anitibiotic) and Pred (the steriod).....she was injected with Dex,which is also a steriod n i think that is the best cos everytime she had the injection,she improves by a lot. called Dr Ling jus now but she was busy,so shall call tomolo morning. i think she will b needing the antibiotics for some time.. i am thinkin of asking Dr Ling to prescribe more baytril n give me the oral version of Dex..so can continue the medication for at least another month or so.... am goin to try my best for pearl. she is eating A LOT today~ even ate some pellets n everytime i go peek at her,she's eating..most of the time eating alfafa hay. so happy
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Post by puppy on Oct 20, 2003 10:13:03 GMT -5
at least she's still eating and behaving normally. i read from websites that if she still behave like normal, means still got hope. that time for daniel's case, i think his bun completely dun eat / drink. not too sure.
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Post by bunnylover on Oct 21, 2003 1:39:27 GMT -5
My big bunnies family members wish to pass their kisses and hugs to pearl............. and wish her a speedy recovery........
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Post by emmababy on Oct 21, 2003 6:36:34 GMT -5
maybe u can ask if she has stronger anti biotics? like those that can be injected? Cos i tik it's stronger. My piggy took the oral type fr Dr Ling & the injection type fr Dr Ly before. I tik the injections works better.
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Post by geraldo on Oct 21, 2003 7:05:09 GMT -5
U NOT CHEAPO LAH.......at least u know the way out of Namly ! , me totally not familiar wit that place n worst af all ...... those houses that nearly all got dogs ! if kena chase hor , how ??!! Me read tt in standard breeds , common cause is a middle ear infections by Pasteurella multocida n in dwarf breeds , head tilt is often caused by the parasite Encephlitozoon cuniculi invading the brain . It damages the vestibular nerve n the rabbit no longer knows where's up n due 2 tt ....it causes the rabbits 2 tilt it's head 2 1 side . Btw .... she bette today ? 've u thought of leaving her Hay nearer 2 her ?... thought like tt easier 4 her lor . 4 me hor , me got hay all over the places lor . Please dun tell me abt putting her 2 sleep hor ... me can't bear the thought at all ! that's the veri veri last option .... unless she in pain or suffering ! Me read abt a bunny that simply refuses 2 give up n seeing tt ..... her owner dismisses the thought of Euthanasia !
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Post by Jellybean on Oct 21, 2003 7:17:58 GMT -5
so glad to hear pearl is getting better. any new updates??
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Post by bubblesbiscuit on Oct 21, 2003 11:18:24 GMT -5
Pearl is eating VERY well.. am thinking of tryin ARC as recommended by emmababy... but very broke loh
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Post by puppy on Oct 21, 2003 11:25:43 GMT -5
bubbles > was thinking about ARC but remembered that u r very tight these days... so nv suggest that to u.
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Post by Shirl147 on Oct 21, 2003 14:30:22 GMT -5
Hehe.. sorry me calling ur nick short-form so sorry... are u feeling better.. dun stay up and chat so late ok? ur lovies need lotsa care from u.. and u must take good care of urself so you'll have the strength to take care of them yah? hey seriously.. dun worry bout the money part.. if u need i have extra cash with me.. then hols u work then slowly pay me back lah..
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Post by bubblesbiscuit on Oct 21, 2003 14:55:25 GMT -5
its ok...thanks a lot for the offer..but i can manage..might have to find another job la..but i believe my pets,my responsibility..whatever the case,i have to b self reliant as much as possible
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